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		<title>By: Sam Prochazka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Prochazka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 16:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Raz,

Thanks for the comment!

It&#039;s always a good time to get into a business if you&#039;re planning on putting in 110% and are ready to support yourself during the startup phase. Alternatively, it&#039;s ALWAYS a bad time to get into a business if you think it&#039;ll take any less than 110% to get things rolling.

The real estate industry in Canada is huge and the competition bureau likely won&#039;t impose sweeping, industry-destroying changes.

All the best,

Sam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Raz,</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s always a good time to get into a business if you&#8217;re planning on putting in 110% and are ready to support yourself during the startup phase. Alternatively, it&#8217;s ALWAYS a bad time to get into a business if you think it&#8217;ll take any less than 110% to get things rolling.</p>
<p>The real estate industry in Canada is huge and the competition bureau likely won&#8217;t impose sweeping, industry-destroying changes.</p>
<p>All the best,</p>
<p>Sam</p>
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		<title>By: raz</title>
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		<dc:creator>raz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 03:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, i am new to this industry and on my way of becoming a real estate agent. Even though i don&#039;t fully understand what exactly going on here, i still have a clue but I can&#039;t stop myself from asking the ultimate question: Is this a bad time to get into this business since i am planning to become a full time real agent? Regards. RAZ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, i am new to this industry and on my way of becoming a real estate agent. Even though i don&#8217;t fully understand what exactly going on here, i still have a clue but I can&#8217;t stop myself from asking the ultimate question: Is this a bad time to get into this business since i am planning to become a full time real agent? Regards. RAZ</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent Bruno</title>
		<link>http://www.realpagemaker.com/2010/02/19/competition-bureau-vs-crea-how-does-it-affect-you/comment-page-1/#comment-813</link>
		<dc:creator>Vincent Bruno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s an update on this topic: http://www.househunting.ca/buying-homes/story.html?id=de05c6e8-353d-425e-96a6-aa4f5bdbd9e4</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an update on this topic: <a href="http://www.househunting.ca/buying-homes/story.html?id=de05c6e8-353d-425e-96a6-aa4f5bdbd9e4" rel="nofollow">http://www.househunting.ca/buying-homes/story.html?id=de05c6e8-353d-425e-96a6-aa4f5bdbd9e4</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gerald Tostowaryk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerald Tostowaryk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 02:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Sam, a great post. I&#039;m sure you knew the feedback this topic would bring. Perhaps the comment about you selling web sites to fee for service agents says it all. You provide a service and you don&#039;t tell us how to run our business and neither does CREA. CREA would never tell us how to run our business; that is against the law and that would be the day any agent would let someone (and sure not CREA) tell them how to operate. This is a total non-issue (except for the huge waste of taxpayer dollars (and our dollars) by the Bureau).

The reality is that discount brokers are not discriminated against except maybe by disgruntled non-professionals who generally don&#039;t last. They are totally accepted and, perhaps the only error in your original post, is that their listings aren&#039;t shown if there is no commission payable. Professional REALTORS® just negotiate a commission with their buyer clients because we are bound by the Act to show all suitable listings to our buyers.

We have a large portion of the market because we are good at what we do. The truth is that we still put more money in the Sellers pocket at the end of the day because we only deal with motivated buyers who are willing to pay fair market value for a suitable property that will provide them with a joyful home for years to come. Let the Commission Free (haha) FSBO companies deal with the folks who aren&#039;t really motivated.

Anyways, a good topic, but not worth all the time some REALTORS® are wasting worrying about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Sam, a great post. I&#8217;m sure you knew the feedback this topic would bring. Perhaps the comment about you selling web sites to fee for service agents says it all. You provide a service and you don&#8217;t tell us how to run our business and neither does CREA. CREA would never tell us how to run our business; that is against the law and that would be the day any agent would let someone (and sure not CREA) tell them how to operate. This is a total non-issue (except for the huge waste of taxpayer dollars (and our dollars) by the Bureau).</p>
<p>The reality is that discount brokers are not discriminated against except maybe by disgruntled non-professionals who generally don&#8217;t last. They are totally accepted and, perhaps the only error in your original post, is that their listings aren&#8217;t shown if there is no commission payable. Professional REALTORS® just negotiate a commission with their buyer clients because we are bound by the Act to show all suitable listings to our buyers.</p>
<p>We have a large portion of the market because we are good at what we do. The truth is that we still put more money in the Sellers pocket at the end of the day because we only deal with motivated buyers who are willing to pay fair market value for a suitable property that will provide them with a joyful home for years to come. Let the Commission Free (haha) FSBO companies deal with the folks who aren&#8217;t really motivated.</p>
<p>Anyways, a good topic, but not worth all the time some REALTORS® are wasting worrying about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 04:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are we doing to fight this? Do we have a petition we can sign? Surely there is enough Realtors in Canada for the government to worry about losing their vote. Do we speak up or just let them steam roll us? Why is it ONLY our industry being attacked? Because we are vulnerable and not valued? How about Doctors next for example? Maybe I think it is against the competition act that I have to go to a doctor to get a prescription renewed and they get a royalty for doing so? In Mexico I can go into any pharmacy and ask for any drug I wish without a doctors prescription and get it filled….see my point? Are we heading back to a non-regulated society? If that’s the case, then I am moving to Mexico cause at least the weather is nicer there…lol. First they tell us we need all these regulations to protect the public then they attempt to remove them…geeesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are we doing to fight this? Do we have a petition we can sign? Surely there is enough Realtors in Canada for the government to worry about losing their vote. Do we speak up or just let them steam roll us? Why is it ONLY our industry being attacked? Because we are vulnerable and not valued? How about Doctors next for example? Maybe I think it is against the competition act that I have to go to a doctor to get a prescription renewed and they get a royalty for doing so? In Mexico I can go into any pharmacy and ask for any drug I wish without a doctors prescription and get it filled….see my point? Are we heading back to a non-regulated society? If that’s the case, then I am moving to Mexico cause at least the weather is nicer there…lol. First they tell us we need all these regulations to protect the public then they attempt to remove them…geeesh.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Prochazka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Prochazka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 18:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mark,

I&#039;ve seen listing systems come and go, and they all have the same BIG problem: once a property sells, the seller no longer cares enough to remove their listing from the database. The isn&#039;t the case on MLS where the REALTOR/Broker is required to remove the sold listing as a term of their board/association membership.

Liability clauses like the one you&#039;re referring to are fairly standard in most information system documents. The fact remains that data on the MLS is the most accurate available, even in light of these disclaimers.

Sam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen listing systems come and go, and they all have the same BIG problem: once a property sells, the seller no longer cares enough to remove their listing from the database. The isn&#8217;t the case on MLS where the REALTOR/Broker is required to remove the sold listing as a term of their board/association membership.</p>
<p>Liability clauses like the one you&#8217;re referring to are fairly standard in most information system documents. The fact remains that data on the MLS is the most accurate available, even in light of these disclaimers.</p>
<p>Sam</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you on regulator likely removing rule 3 but I&#039;m confused about rule 1.

Many if not most of the contracts I&#039;ve seen lately have something to the effect of;

THE BUYER ACKNOWLEDGES that the Feature Sheets, marketing materials and any pre- inspection reports provided by the Listing Broker with respect to this property were ordered and obtained for their respective purposes. The Listing Broker makes no representations or warranties regarding these materials and/or their content. Any reliance on the materials is at the Buyer&#039;s sole risk. The Buyer agrees to indemnity and hold harmless the Seller, the Listing Broker and its Sales Representatives for any errors, omissions and any representations, express or implied, contained in the materials.

If realtor&#039;s aren&#039;t going to take any responsibility for the accuracy of the data they share via MLS.ca why would the Bureau not be right in saying the data is provided caveat emptor whether it comes from full service realtor, a discount realtor or a FSBO?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you on regulator likely removing rule 3 but I&#8217;m confused about rule 1.</p>
<p>Many if not most of the contracts I&#8217;ve seen lately have something to the effect of;</p>
<p>THE BUYER ACKNOWLEDGES that the Feature Sheets, marketing materials and any pre- inspection reports provided by the Listing Broker with respect to this property were ordered and obtained for their respective purposes. The Listing Broker makes no representations or warranties regarding these materials and/or their content. Any reliance on the materials is at the Buyer&#8217;s sole risk. The Buyer agrees to indemnity and hold harmless the Seller, the Listing Broker and its Sales Representatives for any errors, omissions and any representations, express or implied, contained in the materials.</p>
<p>If realtor&#8217;s aren&#8217;t going to take any responsibility for the accuracy of the data they share via MLS.ca why would the Bureau not be right in saying the data is provided caveat emptor whether it comes from full service realtor, a discount realtor or a FSBO?</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Prochazka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Prochazka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 16:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Greg, thanks for the comment. RealPageMaker sells websites to REALTORS, but we&#039;re not in the business of telling our customers how to run their businesses (short of educating them on everything internet). 

If you want my personal opinion, however, here it is: in transactions dealing with property I use the full-service model because:
- REALTORS I work with put in the hours and provide me with a valuable service - this value is worth paying for.
- In general terms, REALTORS provide consumers with choice by &quot;lubricating&quot; the real estate market. Without REALTORS there would be no amalgamated database, FAR fewer transactions, and far less choice of property on the market. This is worth paying for, and the government should recognize that it&#039;s also worth protecting.

Having said that, fee-for-service and discount brokerages are extremely important in soliciting customers who would otherwise go to comfree or propertyguys and their value to the industry should not be underestimated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Greg, thanks for the comment. RealPageMaker sells websites to REALTORS, but we&#8217;re not in the business of telling our customers how to run their businesses (short of educating them on everything internet). </p>
<p>If you want my personal opinion, however, here it is: in transactions dealing with property I use the full-service model because:<br />
- REALTORS I work with put in the hours and provide me with a valuable service &#8211; this value is worth paying for.<br />
- In general terms, REALTORS provide consumers with choice by &#8220;lubricating&#8221; the real estate market. Without REALTORS there would be no amalgamated database, FAR fewer transactions, and far less choice of property on the market. This is worth paying for, and the government should recognize that it&#8217;s also worth protecting.</p>
<p>Having said that, fee-for-service and discount brokerages are extremely important in soliciting customers who would otherwise go to comfree or propertyguys and their value to the industry should not be underestimated.</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent Bruno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vincent Bruno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 16:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sam,

Good article.

I think you&#039;re right: Canadian policy in most things has a way of following suit with the USA. I expect the eventual CREA outcome will mirror that of the NAR decision a few years back,

The real bottom line remains that house transactions are intimidating for most people, and that&#039;s why the industry exists, and is valuable. Even within the current constraints, consumers have options (fee-for-service, discount brokerages, several crappy FSBO sites, etc.). Funnily enough, it seems to be the guys that are experts at the conventional model (good website, marketing, excellent follow-up programs, good customer service) that hold most market share, and not so much the novel ones, despite a myriad of attempts over the years.

It will be hard to hold my breath for the next 5 years while the government and industry associations burn mega$$ to reach a predictable conclusion.

Vincent</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sam,</p>
<p>Good article.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re right: Canadian policy in most things has a way of following suit with the USA. I expect the eventual CREA outcome will mirror that of the NAR decision a few years back,</p>
<p>The real bottom line remains that house transactions are intimidating for most people, and that&#8217;s why the industry exists, and is valuable. Even within the current constraints, consumers have options (fee-for-service, discount brokerages, several crappy FSBO sites, etc.). Funnily enough, it seems to be the guys that are experts at the conventional model (good website, marketing, excellent follow-up programs, good customer service) that hold most market share, and not so much the novel ones, despite a myriad of attempts over the years.</p>
<p>It will be hard to hold my breath for the next 5 years while the government and industry associations burn mega$$ to reach a predictable conclusion.</p>
<p>Vincent</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 15:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sam,
I just wanted to know why you  support Fee-for-service Realtor clients with your Real Page Maker websites?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sam,<br />
I just wanted to know why you  support Fee-for-service Realtor clients with your Real Page Maker websites?</p>
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